Talk:3 Ne 15:2-5

A few comments moved here for now

I'm going to work through these verses in some detail, and I wasn't sure quite what to do with the exegesis that was already there. For now I'll post it here and refer to it so that I can see if I can't work it into my own comments (or at least cover all of its ground sufficiently in the course of my own comments). My apologies to the author (Justin, I think?), but please feel free to reinsert the commentary or to do some editing work on my own comments. The commentary:

Jesus sees that the people did not understand what he had said originally and he repeats himself in simpler words explaining exactly that he had fulfilled the law of Moses. This is just another example of the wonderful teacher that Jesus was during his ministry. He was able to recognize the misunderstanding and to clarify.

Christ fulfilled the law of Moses by completing the atonement. The whole law of Moses typified Christ, meaning that every part of it pointed to his great and last sacrifice, so once his earthly mission was over, it was fulfilled in him.

Thanks all. --Joe Spencer 17:05, 10 Jan 2007 (UTC)

I think that with what I wrote today I've embodied the spirit of the comments above. I have more to write still, on verse 5, and that will probably clarify a few things. But I think we can bury the material I've pulled off now. Unless anyone thinks it wise not to do so, I'll probably just delete everything on this talk page in a few days. --Joe Spencer 18:57, 11 Jan 2007 (UTC)

Christ as author bound to fulfill (v. 5)

I really like these thoughts Joe. Implicitly, this is an example of how we should fulfill promises we make. I'm thinking particularly of Num 30:2ff on the binding of vows for us (as children of Israel). Other interesting passages that related to this binding-covenant idea include: D&C 82:15 (the Lord is bound when we obey); D&C 43:9 (we should bind ourselves to obey God); Matt 16:19 and D&C 124:93 (the sealing power: God has power to bind on earth and heaven b/c he is bound to his word--either way, what he says is fulfilled); D&C 104:5 and D&C 35:24 ("covenant with which ye are bound"); Rom 7:2 (woman is bound by the law to her husband); 1 Cor 7:27 ("Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed"). One reason I'm particularly interested in this idea is in my thinking about faith viewed as a confirming (amen) of what what is said (the saying too, I think). I think truth and faith are interestingly connected through this notion of always confirming/fulfilling what one promises. A counter-thought is this idea of charity vs. prophecy that you've mentioned before, but I think this raises an interesting and important difference between prophecy and covenant.... --RobertC 19:58, 13 Jan 2007 (UTC)