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Joe Spencer: /* Law of the gospel (v. 78) */

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‎Law of the gospel (v. 78)

RobertC: /* Law of gospel (v. 78) */ also "law of Christ" v. 21

2006-12-11T14:44:58Z

‎Law of gospel (v. 78): also "law of Christ" v. 21

RobertC: thoughts on "law of the gospel"

2006-12-11T14:37:35Z

thoughts on "law of the gospel"

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==Law of gospel (v. 78)==
My thoughts on this are that ''gospel'' refers primarily to faith, repentance, baptism and gift of the Holy Ghost, and that the ''law'' of the gospel refers to the law of justice, the law(?) of mercy, and the way in which the atonement works according to faith, repentance, baptism and the Holy Ghost. Here are a few possibly interesting references: [[D&C 13:1]] (four principles of gospel); [[D&C 39:6]] (same as previous); [[D&C 84:27]] (same as before but ties in "law of carnal commandmnents"); [[D&C 130:20]] (is "the law" here referring to "the law of the gospel"? I suspect it is...). --[[User:RobertC|RobertC]] 14:37, 11 Dec 2006 (UTC)

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−	My thoughts on this are that ''gospel'' refers primarily to faith, repentance, baptism and gift of the Holy Ghost, and that the ''law'' of the gospel refers to the law of justice, the law(?) of mercy, and the way in which the atonement works according to faith, repentance, baptism and the Holy Ghost. Here are a few possibly interesting references: [[D&C 13:1]] (four principles of gospel); [[D&C 39:6]] (same as previous); [[D&C 84:27]] (same as before but ties in "law of carnal commandmnents"); [[D&C 130:20]] (is "the law" here referring to "the law of the gospel"? I suspect it is...).

−	I think the previous discussion on law in this section is also crucial for understanding what's goin on here, which I think is mighty big question. In particular, I think "the law of Christ" in v. 21 is a key complementary phrase.... --[[User:RobertC\|RobertC]] 14:37, 11 Dec 2006 (UTC)
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−	:I think these are good thoughts as well, though I confess I'm as bewildered as Matthew on what this means. If I take the phrase etymologically, I get some idea, but I don't know how etymologically one should take it. Here's the etymological reading, for interest: law, ''lex'', ''logos'', some speaking or order of logic that binds two people together (a sort of mediation that joins two otherwise independent extremes)--I think this is how law is understood earlier in the section; gospel, ''euangelion'', good (''eu'') message of the angels (''angelion''), the good word the angels bring (from the other side of the veil). This way, the "law of the gospel" might be: the angelic message taken as the word that binds community together. I picture something like the Day of Atonement: the high priest emerges angelically from the Holy of Holies with a message about the covenant, binding them together. Since we are speaking here, however, of the Gospel, I think it is important to recognize that there is a specific content in mind: the high priest comes out speaking of the coming Messiah (announcing the "good news"), and that announcement opens the possibility of binding together the people within a law (whether the Law or some other law, I don't know that it matters... perhaps D&C 42 is the "law" in question). Anyway, some thoughts. --[[User:Joe Spencer\|Joe Spencer]] 14:33, 13 Dec 2006 (UTC)

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	I think the previous discussion on law in this section is also crucial for understanding what's goin on here, which I think is mighty big question. In particular, I think "the law of Christ" in v. 21 is a key complementary phrase.... --[[User:RobertC\|RobertC]] 14:37, 11 Dec 2006 (UTC)		I think the previous discussion on law in this section is also crucial for understanding what's goin on here, which I think is mighty big question. In particular, I think "the law of Christ" in v. 21 is a key complementary phrase.... --[[User:RobertC\|RobertC]] 14:37, 11 Dec 2006 (UTC)
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		+	:I think these are good thoughts as well, though I confess I'm as bewildered as Matthew on what this means. If I take the phrase etymologically, I get some idea, but I don't know how etymologically one should take it. Here's the etymological reading, for interest: law, ''lex'', ''logos'', some speaking or order of logic that binds two people together (a sort of mediation that joins two otherwise independent extremes)--I think this is how law is understood earlier in the section; gospel, ''euangelion'', good (''eu'') message of the angels (''angelion''), the good word the angels bring (from the other side of the veil). This way, the "law of the gospel" might be: the angelic message taken as the word that binds community together. I picture something like the Day of Atonement: the high priest emerges angelically from the Holy of Holies with a message about the covenant, binding them together. Since we are speaking here, however, of the Gospel, I think it is important to recognize that there is a specific content in mind: the high priest comes out speaking of the coming Messiah (announcing the "good news"), and that announcement opens the possibility of binding together the people within a law (whether the Law or some other law, I don't know that it matters... perhaps D&C 42 is the "law" in question). Anyway, some thoughts. --[[User:Joe Spencer\|Joe Spencer]] 14:33, 13 Dec 2006 (UTC)

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−	My thoughts on this are that ''gospel'' refers primarily to faith, repentance, baptism and gift of the Holy Ghost, and that the ''law'' of the gospel refers to the law of justice, the law(?) of mercy, and the way in which the atonement works according to faith, repentance, baptism and the Holy Ghost. Here are a few possibly interesting references: [[D&C 13:1]] (four principles of gospel); [[D&C 39:6]] (same as previous); [[D&C 84:27]] (same as before but ties in "law of carnal commandmnents"); [[D&C 130:20]] (is "the law" here referring to "the law of the gospel"? I suspect it is...). --[[User:RobertC\|RobertC]] 14:37, 11 Dec 2006 (UTC)	+	My thoughts on this are that ''gospel'' refers primarily to faith, repentance, baptism and gift of the Holy Ghost, and that the ''law'' of the gospel refers to the law of justice, the law(?) of mercy, and the way in which the atonement works according to faith, repentance, baptism and the Holy Ghost. Here are a few possibly interesting references: [[D&C 13:1]] (four principles of gospel); [[D&C 39:6]] (same as previous); [[D&C 84:27]] (same as before but ties in "law of carnal commandmnents"); [[D&C 130:20]] (is "the law" here referring to "the law of the gospel"? I suspect it is...).
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		+	I think the previous discussion on law in this section is also crucial for understanding what's goin on here, which I think is mighty big question. In particular, I think "the law of Christ" in v. 21 is a key complementary phrase.... --[[User:RobertC\|RobertC]] 14:37, 11 Dec 2006 (UTC)

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